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Riding Shotgun With Charlie

Apr 9, 2019

Riding Shotgun With Charlie
#045 Massad Ayoob
The Man, The Myth, The Legend!

What can I say?

He’s been the self defense go to guru since the 1970’s. He’s been influential on instructors, police officer, and authors since he started. He started the Lethal Force Institute in New Hampshire. LFI turned into Massad Ayoob Group and the MAG 20 and MAG 40 courses. Mas has author two dozen books in guns, the effects and aftermath of dealing with a lethal encounter.

The Gun Rights Policy Conference in Tampa 2016 is when I first met Mas. I asked him to sign my copy of In The Gravest Extreme. I also mentioned Riding Shotgun With Charlie and I’d love to have him as a passenger. Alan Gottlieb was behind him and he say “Mas, you’ve GOT to to Riding Shotgun With Charlie!”. Mas said “OK, when do we do this?”. I said “Well, I don’t have a car, but if you give me your contact I’ll see what I can set up.”. I was shocked it was “that easy” to ask.

I went to New Hampshire in the summer of 2018 to hear Mas speak about suicide prevention. I spoke with his wife Gail Pepin about the possibility of setting up and interview and she was very receptive.

Kevin Sona (RSWC #043) asked me to speak at the Florida Carry event in February 2019. Then he tells me that Mas is speaking as well would I be interested in having him on RSWC. Um….YEAH!!!

After speaking at the event, Mas agreed to get into the passenger seat, drive around with a stranger, in a place neither of us have been to. This was a big deal for me.

I can’t thank Massad Ayoob enough for taking the time, sharing some stories, and having a few laughs. And to Gail for hanging out while we did the interview. And of course, thanks to Kevin for having the event and asking both of us to speak.

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